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New Jersey and Several U.S. Cities Move to Establish Public Banks

Posted Dec. 27, 2017

MP3 Interview with Ellen Brown, chair of the Public Banking Institute, conducted by Scott Harris


For many Americans, Wall Street and giant U.S. banks are the hated symbol of unbridled greed, which are often implicated in ripping off average workers. For example, Wells Fargo, one of the nation's largest banks, was fined $185 million in civil penalties in 2016 for secretly opening millions of unauthorized deposit and credit card accounts that harmed their customers. Other familiar names in the banking industry, such as Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan Chase, Bank of America and Citigroup have all been hit with millions of dollars in federal fines for engaging in improper conduct in recent years, including behavior that triggered the subprime mortgage collapse that led to the 2008 meltdown of the global economy.

While there’s no shortage of criticism of the big financial institutions, some progressive economists and activists have proposed alternatives to private for-profit banking to better serve the interests of consumers, small business and the nation as a whole.

Among those ideas is an option known as public banking, inspired by the successful example of the Bank of North Dakota, the nation’s only statewide publicly-owned bank established in 1919. Between The Lines’ Scott Harris spoke with Ellen Brown, chairwoman of the Public Banking Institute, who discusses the pledge made by Governor-Elect Phil Murphy of New Jersey who says he’ll work to establish a public bank in the state, and other cities across the U.S. that are also working to adopt North Dakota’s public banking model.

ELLEN BROWN: Public banks are banks that are owned by government as opposed to – it doesn't mean a publicly-listed bank – it would be a city-owned bank or a state-owned bank, or it could even be a national bank. Globally, 25 percent of banks are publicly-owned. In the 1970s, there were 50 percent of banks that were publicly-owned. Then we went through a wave of privatization – it's now down to 25 percent. So, we're behind the curve in having only one, which is the Bank of North Dakota, which has been around for (almost) a century now.

But we do have quite a bit of interest in public banking. But probably the biggest news we've heard is in New Jersey. Phil Murphy ran as Democrat for governor and won, and he made a state bank a centerpiece of his platform. We're all looking on to see how that works. Hopefully, he'll be the first or the second, and everybody else will see how well it works and jumps on.

Phil Murphy was a banker at Goldman Sachs so he understands how banking works. And I think that's why he was so quick to pick up on the idea, whereas generally speaking, most people don't understand how banking works and they don't trust government. I mean, even legislators themselves – they have this perception that we're talking about putting bureaucrats in charge, which we're not. We're talking about putting seasoned bankers, doing actual banking to show that the major advantage of a public bank – what you do is you take your own revenues – the state's or the city's own revenues – and you put them in a bank, which allows you to leverage your money by a factor, technically, a factor of 10.

So let's say, if you had a billion dollars, let's say, you could either keep that in a loan fund, lend it out at three percent, wait for the money to come back, lend it out again. Every city has loan funds, and that's what they do.

But you could take that same money, put it in a bank and then you can lend out 10 times that much. That's what banks do, or it actually works out to you would make out five times what you would make with a revolving fund. So it's lucrative. You can save a lot of money on infrastructure. Fifty percent of the costs of infrastructure is financing. So if you are doing it yourself, if you own the bank, you get to finance that money back so, you can save up to 50 percent. In theory, it would be 50 percent instead of it going to your deposits and your capital going to a Wall Street bank, which might be investing overseas or might even actually be doing things that hurt the state. You have no control over where they put that money.

But if you put it in your own bank, you can make loans as needed in your state, so you can generate credit for your local community where you need it, and make a profit for the city or state.

BETWEEN THE LINES: With the election of Phil Murphy in New Jersey as governor, as you said, he ran on a platform of establishing a public bank for the state of New Jersey. What exactly was he saying were the benefits? Were there any specifics coming out of the campaign pledge to establish a public bank?

ELLEN BROWN: Well, there were three things he said he would focus on: infrastructure, student loans and affordable housing. All things for which there's a big need. Some of those things may sound like they're risky. But that's the thing. If you're a banker, you understand there's a way to do all those things that isn't risky.

BETWEEN THE LINES: There are a number of U.S. cities that you're in touch with that are interested in establishing public banks, including Los Angeles and Oakland, California; Seattle, Washington; and Sante Fe, New Mexico. Give us an update on what's the status of the move towards establishing a public bank in these municipalities?

ELLEN BROWN: Well, the farthest along would be Santa Fe. They've done it. They got a feasibility study approved. They established that it would be a moneymaker for them, which is a very small city. So if it's a moneymaker for them, it's basically a moneymaker for anyone.

But where they are right now is figuring out all the relevant laws and how they can comply with all the laws. So they're sort of in that technical cart now.

I've said they're setting up a bank in Oakland. They got $75,000 approved for a feasibility study. So they're proceeding with that. In Los Angeles, the city council has approved looking at a city-owned bank. In Seattle, too, they're just looking at it. But the state has gotten $75,000 for a feasibility study approved and so that's what they're proceeding with now.

BETWEEN THE LINES: You've been at this for this for a long time. Do you have a sense that the wheels are turning, finally?

ELLEN BROWN: Hopefully, yes. It's one of those things where it needs to percolate up before people get the idea of what you're talking about.

Like for example, when I was up in Washington state. Other times when we've presented to legislators, you do get a lot of pushback and a lot of questions. But, in this case, everybody was so positive. It was like, "OK, how do we do this?" I mean, they were looking at the way forward rather than being hesitant and seeing obstacles.

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