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Between The Lines Presentation at the Left Forum 2016

"How Do We Build A Mass Movement to Reverse Runaway Inequality?" with Les Leopold, author of "Runaway Inequality: An Activist's Guide to Economic Justice," Sunday, May 22, 2016 from 10 a.m.- to 12:15 p.m., Room 8.61, John Jay College of Criminal Justice, The City University of New York, 860 11th Ave. (Between 58th and 59th), New York City. Between The Lines' Scott Harris and Richard Hill moderated this workshop. Audio/slideshows and more forthcoming from this workshop and the Left Forum. Stay tuned.

Can Bernie recreate the Rainbow Coalition?

Kevin Alexander Gray, civil rights and labor organizer, author and commentator, questions Bernie Sanders' ability to mobilize minority support given his early missteps and failure to build bridges to marginalized communities before launching his campaign. Gray also assesses the state of the Black Lives Matter movement and speculates on its prospects for broadening its agenda to include the full spectrum of progressive. (MP3 audio, 54:14) Please note: Raw audio, static between 3:50-5:55.

How sustainable is the recent wave of positive change?

Robert Borosage, director of Campaign for America's Future ( addresses the question: Do the recent waves of positive events represent a sea change that will continue to gather momentum? Or are they an anomaly that will be blown away in a blast of right-wing outrage? Interview conducted by Richard Hill. (MP3 audio, 28:49)

Only Activism Can Challenge America's Rigged System to Reverse Inequality and Restore Democracy

Interview with Hedrick Smith, Pulitzer Prize-winning former foreign correspondent, editor and Washington Bureau chief for The New York Times (MP3 audio, 21:47)

Hedrick Smith talks about how we can restore democracy, reduce inequality and rebuild the power of the people. He is also author of many books, his latest titled, "Who Stole the American Dream?"

Between The Lines' Coverage of Ralph Nader's Convocation of the American Museum of Tort Reform in Winsted, CT Sept. 26, 2015

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Between The Lines' Coverage of the 2015 Left Forum

Between The Lines Radio Newsmagazine held a Left Forum panel discussion:

"Successes and Challenges of Human Rights Campaigns for Publicly Financed Health Care in the U.S." on May 30, 2015

Newly added video of the health care panel

Listen to audio of the plenary sessions from the three-day weekend.

"The TPP: Capitalism on Steroids,"

MP3Economics professor Richard Wolff compares socialist and capitalist economic models, presents a new paradigm for socialist transition and debunks mainstream pundits' consignment of socialism to the "ash heap of history." He then deconstructs the argument for so-called "free trade" and analyzes the threats to working people everywhere and what is left of the American middle class by the Trans Pacific Partnership (TPP). Interview with Between The Lines' Richard Hill on May 5, 2015.

"More Lies. More War? The Truth Behind the Iran Nuclear Scare,"

MP3Gareth Porter, award-winning investigative journalist, deconstructs the web of half-truths and outright deceptions that have tainted the debate over negotiating a peaceful resolution to the Iran nuclear issue. Interview with Between The Lines' Richard Hill, on April 7, 2015.

"Mentor, Friend and Supporter Danny Schechter Will Be Missed"

Reflections on the extraordinary life of activist, author, news analyst, documentary filmmaker and Between The Lines' friend Danny Schechter, "The News Dissector," who died on Thursday, March 19, 2015

"A Conversation with Edward Snowden, Glenn Greenwald and Laura Poitras on Her Documentary Film, 'CITIZEN FOUR'"

Edward Snowden via video link from Moscow joined Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Glenn Greenwald and Laura Poitras discussing Poitras' new Academy Award-nominated documentary film, "Citizen Four," at a TimesTalk event Feb. 12, 2015. Listen to an audio recording of the entire one-hour event.

"TECHNO-UTOPIANISM and the Fate of the Earth"

Selected Between The Lines Radio Newsmagazine audio recordings from: The International Forum on Globalization's conference, Oct. 25, 2014, Cooper Union, New York City

"UNSTOPPABLE": Ralph Nader talk, interview July 26, 2014

Listen to Ralph Nader's 75 min. talk and interview about his new book, "Unstoppable: The Emerging Left-Right Alliance to Dismantle the Corporate State" at Barnes and Noble, Milford, Connecticut. Nader makes a compelling case for left-right alliances on majoritarian issues that progressives and conservatives agree on, acknowledging that individuals feel all too often that they are powerless against the big power structure. He notes that issues such as school prayer, reproductive rights and gun control are issues that the power structure depends on to keep the majority divided. The minimum wage, breaking up the big banks, Pentagon audits, health care, campaign finance reform, corporate tax inversions, Net Neutrality, fracking and GMOs are just a few examples of left-right issues discussed with the audience. He says just a fraction of the left and right – working together – can make a huge "unstoppable" political realignment in passing legislation, despite the "ick factor" of working with those whose other views they don't always agree with.

Listen to Ralph Nader's short interview on current events with Scott Harris before the booksigning.

Between The Lines Radio Newsmagazine was at the Left Forum, May 30 - June 1, 2014, John Jay College of Criminal Justice, City University of New York

Audio recordings from the Left Forum here.

PETE SEEGER (1919-2014): "Folk Music's Granddad Plays It Green"

Read a partial interview transcript with Pete Seeger conducted by Between The Lines' Scott Harris on June 5, 1994 and published in E: The Environmental Magazine in December 1994

Listen to the entire 30-minute interview here.

JEREMY SCAHILL: Oscar-nominated documentary filmmaker "Dirty Wars"

Listen to the full interview (30:33) with Jeremy Scahill, an award-winning investigative journalist with the Nation Magazine, correspondent for Democracy Now! and author of the bestselling book, "Blackwater: The Rise of the World's Most Powerful Mercenary Army," about America's outsourcing of its military. In an exclusive interview with Counterpoint's Scott Harris on Sept. 16, 2013, Scahill talks about his latest book, "Dirty Wars, The World is a Battlefield," also made into a documentary film under the same title, and was nominated Dec. 5, 2013 for an Academy Award in the Best Documentary Feature category.

NOAM CHOMSKY: Obama Threat Against Syria Based on Maintaining U.S. 'Credibility'

Between The Lines Radio Newsmagazine at the Left Forum, June 7-9, Pace University, New York City

Between The Lines' Left Forum audio coverage (more forthcoming):

Bill McKibben, environmental activist and founder of talks about the next steps in the climate change campaign

An address by Bill McKibben, founder of the grassroots climate campaign, upon receiving the annual Gandhi Peace Award from the New Haven-based group Promoting Enduring Peace on April 18 in Hamden, CT

Bill McKibben, Schumann Distinguished Scholar at Middlebury College and author of a dozen books about the environment, beginning with "The End of Nature" in 1989, which is regarded as the first book for a general audience on climate change. The group he founded,, has coordinated 15,000 rallies in 189 countries since 2009. The Boston Globe said in 2010 that he was "probably the country’s most important environmentalist."

Alexis Tsipras, leader of Greece's Left Party Coalition, on "Anti-Austerity Politics in Greece, Europe and Beyond"

A talk recorded on Jan. 25, 2013 at The City University of New York, in a program sponsored by CUNY's Center for the Study of Culture, Technology, and Work.

Alexis Tsipras, a member of the Hellenic parliament, president of the Synaspismos political party since 2008, head of the SYRIZA parliamentary group since 2009, and leader of the Opposition since June 2012. SYRIZA currently leads in Greek opinion polls. Listen to the audio here.

Listen to Scott Harris Live on WPKN Radio

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Counterpoint in its entirety is archived after midnight ET Monday nights, and is available for at least a year following broadcast in WPKN Radio's Archives.

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Between The Lines Blog  BTL Blog

"Mentor, Friend and Supporter Danny Schechter Will Be Missed" by Scott Harris, March 27, 2015

"A Travesty of Reporting," by Reginald Johnson, March 22, 2015

"GOP senators defend CIA cannibalism program," by Samuel Schmaltz, Dec. 13, 2014

"Demanding Justice for Michael Brown," by Reginald Johnson, Nov. 25, 2014

"Shut Down a Cold War Relic," by Reginald Johnson, Oct. 7, 2014

"U.S. breaking the law? Who cares?" by Reginald Johnson, Sept. 2, 2014

"Warsaw Ghetto 1943 and Occupied Gaza 2014: No Valid Comparison, but Several Haunting Parallels," by Scott Harris, July 31, 2014

"Drifting Towards War?" by Reginald Johnson, May 23, 2014

"Media on Ukraine: What Happened to Journalism?" by Reginald Johnson, May 2, 2014

"Dismantling the Corporate State," by Reginald Johnson, April 8, 2014

"Talking Tough on Russia," by Reginald Johnson, March 20, 2014

"Those Lying Russians," by Reginald Johnson, March 6, 2014

Special Programming Special Programming

MP3: Glenn Greenwald delivers a keynote address at "A Conference in Defense of Civil Liberties and to End Indefinite Detention" at Central Connecticut State University in New Britain on Dec. 8, 2012.

Glenn Greenwald is a columnist on civil liberties and US national security issues for the Guardian newspaper. He's a former constitutional lawyer, and until 2012 was a contributing writer at Greenwald is the author of "With Liberty and Justice For Some: How the Law Is Used to Destroy Equality and Protect the Powerful."

Read his column at The Guardian (UK)
Between The Lines' executive producer Scott Harris conducted an interview with Glenn Greenwald at the conference.

Noam Chomsky is linguistics and philosophy professor emeritus at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. Author of nearly 100 books, Chomsky is one of the world's most widely read progressive dissident intellectuals. He talks about his new book, "Occupy," about the Occupy Wall Street movement and the wider issues of class warfare in the America today.
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MP3: Nathan Schneider ( has been reporting on the OWS movement from its first days in August, 2011. In this April 3, 2012 interview, Richard Hill asks him to assess the on-going debate in the movement between those espousing a strict adherence to non-violence principles and practices and those advocating a 'diversity of tactics', Interview conducted by Richard Hill, WPKN

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Single-Payer Advocates Favor High Court Overturning Obama Individual Mandate

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Posted March 28, 2012

Interview with Dr. Margaret Flowers, Maryland pediatrician and member of Physicians for a National Health Program, conducted by Scott Harris


The fate of President Obama’s Affordable Care Act hangs in the balance as the Supreme Court Justices set aside three days, ending on March 28, to hear arguments from opponents of the controversial health insurance reform law. The justices will hear arguments centered on four issues filed in multiple lawsuits by 26 states and other opponents. The first issue was whether the court has jurisdiction to hear the case, given that as no one will pay the new law’s tax penalty until 2015. The second and most important issue deals with the constitutionality of the law's requirement that all U.S. residents either buy insurance or pay a tax penalty. The third issue focuses on whether the law’s expansion of Medicaid unlawfully forces states to participate. And the fourth issue will examine if any part of the health reform law can survive if the individual mandate is struck down.

Groups across the U.S., both supporting and opposing the law, have filed a record number of “friend of the court” briefs in the case. While most of the law’s opponents offer no alternative policy to cover the estimated 50 million Americans currently without health insurance, one group challenging the law does. A group of 50 physicians and two non-profit groups filed a brief urging the court to strike down the individual mandate as unconstitutional. As an alternative, the group advocates instituting a single-payer system to achieve universal health care coverage as exists in most other industrialized nations in the world.

Between the Lines’ Scott Harris spoke with one of the physicians filing the brief, Dr. Margaret Flowers, a Maryland pediatrician who is a congressional fellow with the group Physicians for a National Health Program, and an occupier with Occupy Washington D.C. She explains why she’s opposed to the Affordable Care Act, and how a decision by the Supreme Court overturning the law could pave the way for a vastly improved universal health care policy that would exclude for-profit private health insurance companies.

DR. MARGARET FLOWERS: The 50 physicians are all physicians who advocate for a national single-payer health program as well as the two nonprofit groups, Single-Payer Action and It's Our Economy, which deals with issues of economic justice, and support a single-payer approach. In the United States, we're already spending enough to provide lifelong quality, comprehensive health care to every person living in our country. And we think that anything short of that is just not acceptable because the situation that we're in right right now leaves out tens of millions of people. We have tens of thousands of people that die every year unnecessarily because they can't get health care. Families that are going bankrupt. Business that are going out of business, employees that lose their jobs, and it doesn't have to be this way. And the Affordable Care Act is based on flawed policy that will not achieve the goals of universal, affordable, guaranteed health care. And so, we wanted to make the point that the individual mandate from a policy standpoint is not good policy and that we can achieve our goals in this country in a much simpler way.

BETWEEN THE LINES: Supporters of President Obama's Affordable Care Act say that we shouldn't let the perfect be the enemy of the good. It's a phrase I know you hear a lot. And they talk about the good elements of this law, in stopping insurance company discrimination against people, particularly for pre-existing conditions, allowing children to stay on their parents' health insurance policies longer; some good elements there that Americans like. While not perfect, this law may be worth putting in place, and it could be built upon to get to a universal single-payer system someday down the round.

DR. MARGARET FLOWERS: But it's just a myth to believe that we can take this law, which is very complicated, which further entrenches the insurance companies – gives them millions, hundreds of millions of public dollars to these for-profit corporations and think that we can turn that into a health system. We've been given these excuses, and I've heard these for the whole time I've been advocating for health care reform. You know, we hear these arguments, "Oh, but this bill has, does this one good thing, or these few good things, and we shouldn't let the perfect be the enemy of the good, and meanwhile, we're moving backwards when it comes to health care. Our health care costs continue to rise out of control and the number of uninsured people is growing. People are dying from preventable causes. So what we're actually doing is we're being sold this idea that "oh, well, we can't oppose this bill because it has a few good things in it, it does a few good things for some people."

But meanwhile, we're leaving all the rest of the people out complete. And we have an evidence-based solution right here in this country, and an improved Medicare for all would control our health care cost and cover every person in this nation. It's favored by the majority of Americans, it's favored by the majority of physicians, but it's opposed by the industries that are profiting off our current situation. And so we really at some point you have to say, "We're not going to get anywhere if we keep accepting these arguments. And we have to say enough is enough. It's time to join the rest of the industrialized world and create a health care system that works for every person."

BETWEEN THE LINES: What do you think the political fallout would be if the Supreme Court overturns the individual mandate and the rest of the law kind of falls apart, in terms of the elements that people like? Do you think people would give up on the idea that government should get involved in health care and someday support the idea of single-payer? Or do you think that people would redouble their efforts to get something different than this very complicated Affordable Care Act?

DR. MARGARET FLOWERS: I think what we were hearing right after the Affordable Care Act passed was that this was kind of a concession, it was not a bill that really addressed our underlying problems and most people who are honest about health policy recognize that. And what we were hearing from people like Ezra Klein in the Washington Post and Robert Kuttner were, well if this doesn't work, then we're going to have to seriously look at creating an improved Medicare for all in this country. And they actually started using that term, Medicare for all which is something that the single-payer movement uses.

So, you know, this bill is already falling apart. There had to be over a thousand waivers given to unions, businesses, and insurance companies by the Department of Health and Human Services giving waivers so that these entities doesn't have to comply with certain provisions in the law.

We just had a Congressional Budget Office report a few weeks ago, saying that as a result of this law, 20 million people are estimated to lose their employer-sponsored insurance and be put into the individual market where insurance is more expensive and has skimpier coverage.

There are some children who are allowed to stay on their parent's policies until they're 26, but not all of them. We also know that insurance companies are able to skirt around these issues of pre-existing conditions. They do that by restricting which doctors within their network, by restricting which services are covered. So it's something that's not going to be a solution. And the longer that we wait, for a real solution, the more suffering and death there is in this country and the more health care costs rise. It makes it very difficult for businesses, especially small businesses to survive with these high health care costs. It has an effect on families who have to choose between paying for their medication or their treatments and paying for other necessities in life. It's a no-brainer, really. It's time to just go for a single-payer system.

Learn more about groups advocating for a single-payer health care system by visiting Physicians for a National Health Care Program at Single-Payer Action at or Healthcare-Now at

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