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Between The Lines Presentation at the Left Forum 2016

"How Do We Build A Mass Movement to Reverse Runaway Inequality?" with Les Leopold, author of "Runaway Inequality: An Activist's Guide to Economic Justice," Sunday, May 22, 2016 from 10 a.m.- to 12:15 p.m., Room 8.61, John Jay College of Criminal Justice, The City University of New York, 860 11th Ave. (Between 58th and 59th), New York City. Between The Lines' Scott Harris and Richard Hill moderated this workshop. Listen to the audio/slideshows and more from this workshop.

Can Bernie recreate the Rainbow Coalition?

Kevin Alexander Gray, civil rights and labor organizer, author and commentator, questions Bernie Sanders' ability to mobilize minority support given his early missteps and failure to build bridges to marginalized communities before launching his campaign. Gray also assesses the state of the Black Lives Matter movement and speculates on its prospects for broadening its agenda to include the full spectrum of progressive. (MP3 audio, 54:14) Please note: Raw audio, static between 3:50-5:55.

How sustainable is the recent wave of positive change?

Robert Borosage, director of Campaign for America's Future ( addresses the question: Do the recent waves of positive events represent a sea change that will continue to gather momentum? Or are they an anomaly that will be blown away in a blast of right-wing outrage? Interview conducted by Richard Hill. (MP3 audio, 28:49)

Only Activism Can Challenge America's Rigged System to Reverse Inequality and Restore Democracy

Interview with Hedrick Smith, Pulitzer Prize-winning former foreign correspondent, editor and Washington Bureau chief for The New York Times (MP3 audio, 21:47)

Hedrick Smith talks about how we can restore democracy, reduce inequality and rebuild the power of the people. He is also author of many books, his latest titled, "Who Stole the American Dream?"

Between The Lines' Coverage of Ralph Nader's Convocation of the American Museum of Tort Reform in Winsted, CT Sept. 26, 2015

Convcation speeches (MP3 audio - 2.5 hours)

Patti Smith's People Have the Power (QuickTime movie-download only (raw video)

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Between The Lines' Coverage of the 2015 Left Forum

Between The Lines Radio Newsmagazine held a Left Forum panel discussion:

"Successes and Challenges of Human Rights Campaigns for Publicly Financed Health Care in the U.S." on May 30, 2015

Newly added video of the health care panel

Listen to audio of the plenary sessions from the three-day weekend.

"The TPP: Capitalism on Steroids,"

MP3Economics professor Richard Wolff compares socialist and capitalist economic models, presents a new paradigm for socialist transition and debunks mainstream pundits' consignment of socialism to the "ash heap of history." He then deconstructs the argument for so-called "free trade" and analyzes the threats to working people everywhere and what is left of the American middle class by the Trans Pacific Partnership (TPP). Interview with Between The Lines' Richard Hill on May 5, 2015.

"More Lies. More War? The Truth Behind the Iran Nuclear Scare,"

MP3Gareth Porter, award-winning investigative journalist, deconstructs the web of half-truths and outright deceptions that have tainted the debate over negotiating a peaceful resolution to the Iran nuclear issue. Interview with Between The Lines' Richard Hill, on April 7, 2015.

"Mentor, Friend and Supporter Danny Schechter Will Be Missed"

Reflections on the extraordinary life of activist, author, news analyst, documentary filmmaker and Between The Lines' friend Danny Schechter, "The News Dissector," who died on Thursday, March 19, 2015

"A Conversation with Edward Snowden, Glenn Greenwald and Laura Poitras on Her Documentary Film, 'CITIZEN FOUR'"

Edward Snowden via video link from Moscow joined Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Glenn Greenwald and Laura Poitras discussing Poitras' new Academy Award-nominated documentary film, "Citizen Four," at a TimesTalk event Feb. 12, 2015. Listen to an audio recording of the entire one-hour event.

"TECHNO-UTOPIANISM and the Fate of the Earth"

Selected Between The Lines Radio Newsmagazine audio recordings from: The International Forum on Globalization's conference, Oct. 25, 2014, Cooper Union, New York City

"UNSTOPPABLE": Ralph Nader talk, interview July 26, 2014

Listen to Ralph Nader's 75 min. talk and interview about his new book, "Unstoppable: The Emerging Left-Right Alliance to Dismantle the Corporate State" at Barnes and Noble, Milford, Connecticut. Nader makes a compelling case for left-right alliances on majoritarian issues that progressives and conservatives agree on, acknowledging that individuals feel all too often that they are powerless against the big power structure. He notes that issues such as school prayer, reproductive rights and gun control are issues that the power structure depends on to keep the majority divided. The minimum wage, breaking up the big banks, Pentagon audits, health care, campaign finance reform, corporate tax inversions, Net Neutrality, fracking and GMOs are just a few examples of left-right issues discussed with the audience. He says just a fraction of the left and right – working together – can make a huge "unstoppable" political realignment in passing legislation, despite the "ick factor" of working with those whose other views they don't always agree with.

Listen to Ralph Nader's short interview on current events with Scott Harris before the booksigning.

Between The Lines Radio Newsmagazine was at the Left Forum, May 30 - June 1, 2014, John Jay College of Criminal Justice, City University of New York

Audio recordings from the Left Forum here.

PETE SEEGER (1919-2014): "Folk Music's Granddad Plays It Green"

Read a partial interview transcript with Pete Seeger conducted by Between The Lines' Scott Harris on June 5, 1994 and published in E: The Environmental Magazine in December 1994

Listen to the entire 30-minute interview here.

JEREMY SCAHILL: Oscar-nominated documentary filmmaker "Dirty Wars"

Listen to the full interview (30:33) with Jeremy Scahill, an award-winning investigative journalist with the Nation Magazine, correspondent for Democracy Now! and author of the bestselling book, "Blackwater: The Rise of the World's Most Powerful Mercenary Army," about America's outsourcing of its military. In an exclusive interview with Counterpoint's Scott Harris on Sept. 16, 2013, Scahill talks about his latest book, "Dirty Wars, The World is a Battlefield," also made into a documentary film under the same title, and was nominated Dec. 5, 2013 for an Academy Award in the Best Documentary Feature category.

NOAM CHOMSKY: Obama Threat Against Syria Based on Maintaining U.S. 'Credibility'

Between The Lines Radio Newsmagazine at the Left Forum, June 7-9, Pace University, New York City

Between The Lines' Left Forum audio coverage (more forthcoming):

Bill McKibben, environmental activist and founder of talks about the next steps in the climate change campaign

An address by Bill McKibben, founder of the grassroots climate campaign, upon receiving the annual Gandhi Peace Award from the New Haven-based group Promoting Enduring Peace on April 18 in Hamden, CT

Bill McKibben, Schumann Distinguished Scholar at Middlebury College and author of a dozen books about the environment, beginning with "The End of Nature" in 1989, which is regarded as the first book for a general audience on climate change. The group he founded,, has coordinated 15,000 rallies in 189 countries since 2009. The Boston Globe said in 2010 that he was "probably the country’s most important environmentalist."

Alexis Tsipras, leader of Greece's Left Party Coalition, on "Anti-Austerity Politics in Greece, Europe and Beyond"

A talk recorded on Jan. 25, 2013 at The City University of New York, in a program sponsored by CUNY's Center for the Study of Culture, Technology, and Work.

Alexis Tsipras, a member of the Hellenic parliament, president of the Synaspismos political party since 2008, head of the SYRIZA parliamentary group since 2009, and leader of the Opposition since June 2012. SYRIZA currently leads in Greek opinion polls. Listen to the audio here.

Listen to Scott Harris Live on WPKN Radio

Between The Lines' Executive Producer Scott Harris hosts a live, weekly talk show, Counterpoint, from which some of Between The Lines' interviews are excerpted. Listen every Monday evening from 8 to 10 p.m. EDT at (Follows the 5-7 minute White Rose Calendar.)

Counterpoint in its entirety is archived after midnight ET Monday nights, and is available for at least a year following broadcast in WPKN Radio's Archives.

You can also listen to full unedited interview segments from Counterpoint, which are generally available some time the day following broadcast.

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Between The Lines Blog  BTL Blog

"Mentor, Friend and Supporter Danny Schechter Will Be Missed" by Scott Harris, March 27, 2015

"A Travesty of Reporting," by Reginald Johnson, March 22, 2015

"GOP senators defend CIA cannibalism program," by Samuel Schmaltz, Dec. 13, 2014

"Demanding Justice for Michael Brown," by Reginald Johnson, Nov. 25, 2014

"Shut Down a Cold War Relic," by Reginald Johnson, Oct. 7, 2014

"U.S. breaking the law? Who cares?" by Reginald Johnson, Sept. 2, 2014

"Warsaw Ghetto 1943 and Occupied Gaza 2014: No Valid Comparison, but Several Haunting Parallels," by Scott Harris, July 31, 2014

"Drifting Towards War?" by Reginald Johnson, May 23, 2014

"Media on Ukraine: What Happened to Journalism?" by Reginald Johnson, May 2, 2014

"Dismantling the Corporate State," by Reginald Johnson, April 8, 2014

"Talking Tough on Russia," by Reginald Johnson, March 20, 2014

"Those Lying Russians," by Reginald Johnson, March 6, 2014

Special Programming Special Programming

MP3: Glenn Greenwald delivers a keynote address at "A Conference in Defense of Civil Liberties and to End Indefinite Detention" at Central Connecticut State University in New Britain on Dec. 8, 2012.

Glenn Greenwald is a columnist on civil liberties and US national security issues for the Guardian newspaper. He's a former constitutional lawyer, and until 2012 was a contributing writer at Greenwald is the author of "With Liberty and Justice For Some: How the Law Is Used to Destroy Equality and Protect the Powerful."

Read his column at The Guardian (UK)
Between The Lines' executive producer Scott Harris conducted an interview with Glenn Greenwald at the conference.

Noam Chomsky is linguistics and philosophy professor emeritus at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. Author of nearly 100 books, Chomsky is one of the world's most widely read progressive dissident intellectuals. He talks about his new book, "Occupy," about the Occupy Wall Street movement and the wider issues of class warfare in the America today.
Listen to this interview (June 6, 2011)

MP3: Nathan Schneider ( has been reporting on the OWS movement from its first days in August, 2011. In this April 3, 2012 interview, Richard Hill asks him to assess the on-going debate in the movement between those espousing a strict adherence to non-violence principles and practices and those advocating a 'diversity of tactics', Interview conducted by Richard Hill, WPKN

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As Afghan War Approaches Second Decade, Activists Organize October Anti-War Protest

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Posted June 8, 2011

Interview with David Swanson, co-founder of, conducted by Scott Harris


When President Obama announced his decision to deploy 30,000 additional U.S. troops to Afghanistan in December 2009, he also pledged to begin a withdrawal of those troops beginning in July 2011. The promise to wind down the war in Afghanistan was politically necessary, with a growing number of U.S. citizens no longer supportive of a war that will be entering its 11th year this October. But with July’s withdrawal date fast approaching, the White House is hinting that the withdrawal of U.S. troops may be larger than the anticipated token drawdown of 3,000 to 5,000 troops. How many American soldiers will come home in July is now being debated by the administration and the Pentagon.

The competing arguments in play appear to be the symbolic impact of the U.S. raid which killed al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden, and the military’s concern that a substantial withdrawal of American forces now would risk gains made against the Taliban insurgency by last year’s troop surge. However, the mood among members of Congress has shifted, with many anti-war Democrats and anti-Obama Republicans casting nearly enough votes in May to pass a bill to accelerate the withdrawal of U.S. troops from Afghanistan.

Since the 2008 presidential election, the U.S. peace movement has waned, with fewer anti-war protests and less participation in vigils, teach-ins and lobbying of Congress. But now, a new protest is being organized for Oct. 6 with the goal of placing new attention on the war in Afghanistan, and demanding an end to the conflict, as the U.S. military combat role there enters its second decade. Between The Lines’ Scott Harris spoke with David Swanson, co-founder of the group, who discusses the Obama administration’s plans for withdrawing U.S. forces from Afghanistan and the organizing now underway for a sustained and militant protest in Washington D.C. on Oct. 6.

DAVID SWANSON: This is a president and a vice president and others in the administration who've been promising, swearing a significant, substantial withdrawal in July for a year and a half. And now, in recent weeks you've heard it might be 5,000 troops. And then you find out it might be troops and contractors adding up to 5,000. And that's not out of a total of 100,000, that's out of a total of 200,000 or so troops and contractors in Afghanistan. So that's about two-and-a-half percent. Now, you start seeing numbers ranging from 3,000 to 5,000. So you've got a range of one-and-a-half to two-and-a-half being pulled out in July. And the New York Times, without suggesting any numbers, says "And it might be even more than that." Well, you know it could be either extreme in this big range that they're now debating between 3,000 and 5,000 men and women. In either case, it doesn't begin to amount to what's been promised here. Right? I mean, this is a president who did keep his promises on Afghanistan from the campaign. He said, "I'm going to escalate it; I'm going to escalate the good war." But later, as president, he promised a serious withdrawal this July and now, appears to be backing off from that. And you know, we didn't elect him on that promise, and we can't vote him out on this backing off. We have to have some sort of way to pressure these people to listen to us in between elections.

BETWEEN THE LINES: Obama, when he talked about withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan this summer was vague certainly on the numbers, although substantial troops doesn't sound like just a few thousand support soldiers and contractors. What do you think would meet that pledge of Obama to withdraw a significant number of troops?

DAVID SWANSON: This is a president who has escalated this war by 60,000 or 70,000 troops, plus a similar number of contractors. And those have both been described as surges. One was in 2009, happened with almost no public debate or discussion. The next one happened at the end of 2009 and in 2010, and there was a lot of discussion about it, and it was a big surge and that's where the promise was made that the withdrawal would start in July with a big withdrawal and proceeding from there. So as long as those are considered surges, I think they have to end. I think you have to pull out those 70,000 troops plus contractors and get back to the level you were before and then continue, because the Afghan people don't want them there. The American people overwhelmingly don't want them there. The rule of law is against it. Our budget is against it. The natural environment, our civil liberties, our own representative government are against. There's not an argument for staying.

BETWEEN THE LINES: David, you wrote a very interesting article recently titled, "Our Tahrir Square, D.C's Freedom Plaza on October 6th." You're proposing organizing a sustained protest movement ala Egypt, Tunisia -- what's going on in Spain -- that would not just be a nice Saturday afternoon out, as you said in the article, "patting ourselves on the back for being good protesters", but actually a sustained movement that will have more impact here in the United States. Tell us about that proposal.

DAVID SWANSON: As I've talked to people around the country, and I ask them, do you want to come to Washington for another rally or speeches or march or make home movies and go back home? There's not much interest. But do you want to come for the one big event that you could tell your grandkids you were part of, where we go and shut things down and hurt the war machine and the Wall Street funding, misrepresenting government until it begins to listen to the people. Then they say, "Yeah, I'm there; I'll quit my job; I'll risk relationships with my loved ones. I'll do what it takes, I'll be there."

And so, it's not just me proposing this. A number of people and groups had this idea around the same time some weeks back and have now put together an initial coalition that's announced an invitation for more groups and organizations and individuals to join in, and you can actually go to and sign up that you'll be there. You can even sign up, "I'll be there only if at least 50,000 people will be there with me." And then we'll fill you in how many people are going to be there. I expect it will be well over that number. And the intention is very much to nonviolently occupy Freedom Plaza, which has a nice resonance with Tahrir Square, and to get in the way, and to shut things down until our government begins to listen to us.

David Swanson is author of the book, “War is a Lie.” Learn more about plans for the Oct. 6 protest in Washington, D.C. by visiting

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